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tancrede

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Hello, I am quite new in the world of bike touring, and I wanted to share my experience with you :

1500km à vélo entre la France et la Croatie / bycling trip

It’s a 5mn long video clip, with music and commentaries (in French, but subtitled in English).
If you like it, you can share the link.
I’ll be happy to get any feedback.

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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 05:54:40 PM »
Pretty cool video thx for sharing. I like the music and it is well put together. You got some pretty nice shots and the meal you cooked looked yummy :) It is a shame you didn't have a good experience with the locals but I don't think it has to do anything with the beird and long hair. I crisso-cross Europe for more than a year  and I had dread locks and a lojg beird! And I spent 3/4 of my nights with locals and It is some of the best memories of my life. I think the real problem in your trip was the way you traveled. 1500 km in 14 days doesn't give you any time to spend with the locals. I give myself a whole month to bike as many km (at least) I have for principles to not hurry. I like to say "no plan is a good plan". So I don't end up spending all day biking and I am not tired during my entire trip. Also, you said you didn'treally enjoy biking cause of the cars, but the itinerary you chose is one of the busiest axis in Europe offering very limited posibilities for quiet roads. Biking along the mediteraneen cost in France and Croatia is not really fun simply because it is one the most touristic region in the world! And touristic area are and friendly locals usually don't go together. I would say don't give up, bike touring is TONS of fun if done the right way. Take you time and stay away from touristic areas... and keep sharing your adventures!

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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 06:35:10 AM »
Hello, in fact yes, I know my video sounds pessimistic, maybe I wanted to initiate a debate.
With more time, the trip would have been a lot more different, I agree.
But still, compared to other regions, I think fear is the first reaction of people in Europe, and it is a pity!
You said you spend 3/4 nights with locals during your 1 year trip, you would have spend 365 days out of 365 days with locals in other countries, this is my point!

Thanks a lot for your feedback!

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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 07:50:05 AM »
I don't really agree w/ Tancerede, at least it is not my experience. When I cycled through Europe, the first people's reaction was curiosity not fear, my loaded bike brought a lot of attention and people usually came to me and ask where the heck I was going, and it often ended with an invitation for a tea, a meal or a place to stay for the night. But for that you need some time and it won't happen if you're rushing and have to do 110 km a day. And Fenlabiz is right the meditarean coast is very touristic so people are usually not the most welcoming in these area. I usually avoid toutristic places as much as I can. I never heard of anyone who spend 100% of his nights with locals. For several reasons: First who would want to do that? To me, one of the joy of traveling by bicycle is camping. I personally wouldn't want to spend so many nights with locals, when I travel I need time for myself too. Learning about a new culture, meeting new people is great but I also love setting up my tent in a beautiful place, cooking under the stars and fall asleep with the sound of mother nature. Also, when you travel one year, you'll have to go through towns and touristic area where it is often more difficult to stay with locals. So, to stay every single nights with locals one would have to spend a lot of time and effort and be very pushy. I think 3/4 of the nights in Europe is pretty damn good.

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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 11:21:37 AM »
I understand Tancrede's point. People often fears strangers especially in our western society and I believe it is the media's fault who repeatedly portrayed the human being as evil. People who have a lot of experience traveling knows that the vast majority of people on earth is nice and kind. In the end, I do believe that most of us seek for peace and happiness. But it is also true that touristic areas are not the best if you want meet locals and this is why bicycle touring is such a great way to travel because you end spending most of your time in non-touristic areas (unless you follow popular sea cost!). Locals in touristic areas consistently see tourists and often end up resenting them (which is kind of funny considering that tourism is often their main source of income). Anyway, I would suggest to Tancrede to not give up and to allow some more free time on his next journey... and maybe suggest some recipes here  :o http://cyclocampingforum.com/index.php?topic=102.0
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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 11:50:34 AM »
Hello,
next time I'll spend less time on the road, and more time for discussions and meeting people...
Maybe I'll choose another destination as well.
Nice recipies by the way!
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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 10:53:23 AM »
HI Tancrede,

I am just back from a one week tour to test my fully loaded bike, before leaving to India...
I had great hosts thorugh warm showers, 2 couples, having toured 2,5 years and ten years!!

What I learnt from them in term of distance is to do less, reduce speed, then you can meet locals, and you have time to enjoy. They cycle a 50 to 80km average per day, ok you do better, because your trip is hort, you're young but in the distance it s needed to rest.... Those people have been giving themselves days to rest -your muscles need it-, or to visit, or to avoid cycling under bad weather... if you need to make a distance, to reach a certain point on a certain deadline, the stress disanchants the trip, and you don't get in contact with this deeper intuitive part of ourself that can tell you what to do.
No plan is their motto... difficult for me to apply still!

still there are positive points in your movie, great lanscape, and a wonderful weather.
Allez l'ami bon courage!!

François

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Re: Video : cycling trip from France to Croatia: 950 miles in 14 days
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 11:11:21 AM »
yep, no plan is a the best plan... no doubt! Leave whenever you feel like it, stop biking whenever it is getting dark. That's what I do...